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December 11

Unique normal ultrafilter

So I'm supposed to know the answer to this, I suppose, but I don't seem to :-)

"Everyone knows" that, in L[U], Gödel's constructible universe relative to an ultrafilter U on some measurable cardinal κ, there is only a single normal ultrafilter, namely U itself. See for example John R. Steel's monograph here, at Theorem 1.7.

So I guess that must mean that the product measure U×U, meaning you fix some identification between κ×κ and κ and then say a set has measure 1 if measure 1 many of its vertical sections have measure 1, must not be normal. (Unless it's somehow just equal to U but I don't think it is.)

But is there some direct way to see that? Say, a continuous function f:κκ with αf(α)<α such that the set of fixed points of f is not in the ultrafilter no singleton has a preimage under f that's in the ultrafilter? I haven't been able to come up with it. --Trovatore (talk) 06:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)