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February 25

Integrating with the natural logarithm

In my textbook this example is given.
14x1dx=14(14x1)4dx=141udu=14ln(|u|)+C=14ln(|4x1|)+C
Where does the 4 in the denominator of the fraction to the left of the integrand come from? If it had been 14x21dx would the same denominator be 8x on account of differentiation or something? --Melab±1 21:33, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The just multiplied and divided by 4, then used the linearity property of . The answer to your second question is "no". Widener (talk) 21:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
But, I don't understand why I multiply and divide by 4. I don't know where the 4 comes from. If the denominator of the fraction inside the integral was 5x^2+7x-1, what would I multiply and divide by? --Melab±1 22:00, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
In rewriting the integrand in the form 1udu, your du=4dx, so 14du=dx. --Kinu t/c 23:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
... and to follow up on the second part of your question, the use of the log rule only works because the derivative of u=4x1 is expressible as a multiple of the dx present in the original integrand. In the second example, unless the integrand contains a multiple of (10x+7)dx (i.e., the derivative of u=5x2+7x1), this method wouldn't work. Chances are this isn't something that would be given in the section of the textbook you're looking at right now, of course. --Kinu t/c 23:30, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
So if du=2xdx then I would multiply by 12x? --Melab±1 00:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
No, because f(x2)2x2xdx12xf(x2)2xdx. To integrate 14x21, notice that 14x21=14x214x+2 Widener (talk) 01:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Still does not answer the question of how I get the denominator. --Melab±1 01:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Make the substitution u=4x1. It then follows that du=4dx. Therefore, we need 4dx in the integrand. We achieve this by multiplying and dividing the integrand by 4. That's where the 4 comes from. Widener (talk) 01:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
To avoid the appearance of the 4 without explanation, an alternative derivation is
14x1dx=1udx=1udu4=141udu
where we use the fact that du=4dx to go from the second to the third expression. Gandalf61 (talk) 09:01, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I am still confused, so I'll pose it more generally.
14x1dx=1a(14x1)4dx=1a(1u)du
How do I get a? The problem I am working on is xx2+1dx. u=x2+1 and du=2xdx so I have:
xx2+1dx=11(xx2+1)2xdx=xudu
Now the book emphasizes uudx=ln(|u|)+C, so I how do I use it in the above. --Melab±1 23:47, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
The equality 14x1dx=1a(14x1)4dx obviously holds only if a=4.
How did you figure out xx2+1dx=11(xx2+1)2xdx? That's obviously false. Widener (talk) 01:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
xx2+1dx=122xx2+1dx Notice that in the integrand the numerator is now the derivative of the denominator and you can use the theorem emphasized in your book. Widener (talk) 01:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I think I get it now. It has to be the numerator in the integrand must be manipulated to make it the derivative of its denominator. --Melab±1 22:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
You need to be careful to distinguish between which transformations are valid (because the two sides of the equality are indeed equal), and which of the valid transformations will make progress in solving a problem.
You can multiply and divide a quantity by the same number and it will not change. So
3=377 and 3x22x=3x22x55 and 14x1 dx=1414x14 dx.
It is also true in general that for a constant number a, af(x) dx=af(x) dx, and so 1414x14 dx=1414x14 dx.
It is just as true to say that 14x1 dx=1314x13 dx, the difference is that the latter will not help you solve the problem. The former will, because if you substitute u=4x1 (the denominator), you'll have 4dx=du.
So for similar problems with a linear denominator, you'll want to multiply and divide by the coefficient of x. But you cannot expect this to work for any kind of denominator - integration is a hard problem and there's no general solution, you need to apply transformations that are both true and bring you closer to your goal. In your xx2+1dx example, both xx2+1dx=11xx2+12xdx and xx2+1dx=12xxx2+12xdx are of course completely false. You can use for example xx2+1dx=121x2+12x dx=121u du, or you can do a partial fraction decomposition as suggested by Widener (which in this case would involve complex numbers). -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 06:23, 27 February 2012 (UTC)