Testwiki:Articles for deletion/Ohio Institute of Technology

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to DeVry University. Stifle (talk) 11:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Ohio Institute of Technology

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No indication of notability, private enterprise It's me...Sallicio!⊕ 08:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete No indication of notability. Considering all the legendary state institutes of technology-- MIT or Cal Tech, Georgia Tech or VPI, I feel sorry for Ohio that such a grand name is trademarked for what appears to be online classes. Mandsford (talk) 15:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I do not know how to properly post here because I'm fairly new to Wikipedia. Nonetheless, this article has merit for several reasons. Ohio Institute of Technology in both of its incarnations has graduated thousands of students in total. Companies seeking student records verification on potential new hires have been using this article 2-8 times a month to find the appropriate contact information and the history of both organizations. Both incarnations were significant and have worked with larger Universities in a variety of capacities from partnerships to buy outs. The article may have to be changed slightly or reorganized. It is also apparent that there was intentional destructive spamming of this article going on by disclosed and undisclosed users. Thank you for your help and suggestions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.117.94 (talk) 04:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I can appreciate your thoughts on the subject; however, the article fails Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. I had a really useful article that was deleted for the same reason (see:here). Cheers!--It's me...Sallicio!⊕ 00:45, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

In accordance to Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, what specifically is not notable and/or verifiable? Is the issue that the article needs to be rewritten or reorganized? Your detailed feedback is very helpful as the burden of proof is on the party making the initial assertion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.117.94 (talk) 02:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Point of factual clarification: Every incarnation or transformation of Ohio Institute of Technology since the 1950's has been classroom training by certified instructors. No classes were offered online. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.117.94 (talk) 02:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Keep The usual criterion for the notability of higher educational institutions, regardless of how they happen to be titled, is whether they are in real existence and award degrees. This school did award an Associates degree, as proven by [1] and [2], and a Bachelor's degree, as proven by [3] and [4] so it counts as more than a trade school awarding certificates. . I hope that someone with access to proper sources will clarify the article. A college does not have to be of the quality of MIT to be notable. DGG ( talk ) 02:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete Without coverage in reliable sources, there is really nothing upon which an article can be built. I appreciate that some basic information may be verifiable, but we can't properly cobble together occasional tidbits of verified information to create an article. That's why the GNG should be applied rather than the "usual criterion" mentioned by DGG but undiscoverable in our notability standards. --Mkativerata (talk) 20:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete School fails WP:School. No reliable sources. Traxs7 (Talk) 02:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete It seems DeVry University (incorporated) used to be called OIT but they dropped the name in the '90s. This one allegedly incorporated in 2002 has zero mention, anywhere.--Savonneux (talk) 03:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep But Rewrite: This article should primarily be about the original OIT, with a separate section on the 2nd one. (I guess two articles might be written, but let's see if we can keep it all in one, because it may not be too lengthy.) I already started on the rewrite. This is a decent rescue candidate.--Milowent (talk) 13:34, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep Google news search shows results. The first one being from the New York Times called Careers; Electronics Field Offers Opportunity and dated Feb 27, 1980. Book search shows results also, but not sure if any of the more than four hundred things listed are notable. The many news results prove its notable though. Dream Focus 14:22, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Merge with redirect to DeVry University. It is part of the history of that university. Later incarnations do not appear to be notable. --MelanieN (talk) 04:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Keep. Desperate cleanup necessary, but the article can stand on its own. The DeVry connection can be handled with Template:Tlx on the DeVry side. tedder (talk) 06:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect to DeVry University. This institution is an earlier version of DeVry. The small amount of text in this article will never grow larger because the institution is now called something else. This all belongs in a "History" section in DeVry University. SnottyWong talk 01:06, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
The reason I am not in agreement with that merge option is because DeVry University has multiple campuses, and this institution predated DeVry. Nevertheless, that's just an organizational issue and the content will be accessible with either outcome.--Milowent (talk) 05:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
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