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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to delete, which defaults to keep. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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I don't think the person is notable. I get very few independent Google hits. He has been the CEO for a few companies, but those ones don't seem to be major . Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
He was the CEO of three publicly quoted corporations in South Africa, and one of the youngest, if not the youngest CEO of a public corporation on the Johannebsurg Stock Exchange in 1998. He has significant investments in USA coporations which are developing innovative mobile marketing solutions. He is recognised as a an international expert in mobile marketing solutions and CRM programs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attiwa (talk • contribs) 03:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: User:Attiwa (the article's creator) has expanded the article with more assertions, so I have asked Attiwa to provide refs/sources.--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 03:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. --86.151.19.135 (talk) 10:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Delete. I spent some time trying to fix the article up, providing references. Everything I found was in conjunction with other non-notable organizations. The article presents itself a little better for my efforts and maybe someone will hit the jackpot and be able to prevent mine from becoming a wasted effort, however as it stands, Michael Levinsohn appears to be non-notable. — X S G 10:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)- Keep. This article just needs some cleaning up, now. The correlation with Makeba and the production of a grammy award-nominated album in combination with being CEO of this and that are enough to demonstrate a weak but present notability. — X S G 08:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: I've just dropped an hour of time wiki-izing the article, checking facts, and organizing the article. I'm actually proud of my work, here. I hope everyone gets to appreciate it... :) — X S G 04:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. —Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 13:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Thanks XSG for the cleaning and digging you've done - I do hope it's not all in vain. I (as the nominator for deletion) am now a little less certain whether it should be deleted. What still bothers me is that pretty well everything about Levinsohn seems to come from press releases, and most of the entities he's associated with appear themselves to be non-notable judging by the number of redlinks. The announcement of his appointment to MOBICOMM appears on a variety of business-related websites but these seem to have been based on one (or just a few) press releases (some publications and websites will publish almost anything that's handed to them). The assertion that many articles by Levinsohn have been published by leading Southa African journals is backed up by...a press release from Sterling Trust of which Levinsohn was the MD. Also, I can't find anything outside Wikipedia to confirm the association with the Miriam Makeba album, and I don't think involvement in the financing of a Rick Wakeman album is a notable fact. So sorry, but my position is still to delete.--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 13:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Corrections: Sorry, have to correct myself in the above! First, I realise now that the Sterling Trust "press release" I referred to appears to be a copy of an article in some external publication (I can't discover which one though as I get zero Google hits). Nevertheless, if Levinsohn has written many article in leading journals, why are none of them apparently online? Second correction: I have found one Google hit associating Levinsohn with Makuba's album. However, it describes him as being involved in the financing, so like Rick Wakeman, this is not a notable fact.--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 13:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Thanks XSG for the cleaning and digging you've done - I do hope it's not all in vain. I (as the nominator for deletion) am now a little less certain whether it should be deleted. What still bothers me is that pretty well everything about Levinsohn seems to come from press releases, and most of the entities he's associated with appear themselves to be non-notable judging by the number of redlinks. The announcement of his appointment to MOBICOMM appears on a variety of business-related websites but these seem to have been based on one (or just a few) press releases (some publications and websites will publish almost anything that's handed to them). The assertion that many articles by Levinsohn have been published by leading Southa African journals is backed up by...a press release from Sterling Trust of which Levinsohn was the MD. Also, I can't find anything outside Wikipedia to confirm the association with the Miriam Makeba album, and I don't think involvement in the financing of a Rick Wakeman album is a notable fact. So sorry, but my position is still to delete.--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 13:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Keep per XSG's saves. Also rm some foreign phrasing and redlinks.--Sallicio 02:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.