Testwiki:Articles for deletion/Hana Svobodova

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The result was no consensus to delete. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hana Svobodova

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Neutral nomination after Fram's prod tags were repeatedly removed from the article. Original concern: "Non notable national Miss Earth candidate. With 19 Google hits (name plus miss earth) slightly more visible than some of her colleagues, but still not passing WP:BIO." Tuvok[^T@lk/_Improve] 13:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete for reasons expressed above. The 19 Google hits for her name plus miss earth[1]. When looking for her name without the miss earth connection, we come across a lot of hits which are unrelated (eg. for a professor and a driving school). She was first runner up at the Czech Miss 2008 pageant (which earned her a spot at Miss Earth). Seems to have very limited notability so far... See also the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadia Neves Pereira. Fram (talk) 13:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment But 30,000 hits for "Česká Miss" "Hana Svobodova" see. I have no idea what they say. Mr Stephen (talk) 16:40, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

30,000? Your link only gives me 2,760 hits. May still contain good sources, of course, but quite a difference from your number. I get 30,000 when I remove the quotes from around her name though (which is incorrect), so perhaps you mixed the numbers from one search with the results from another? Fram (talk) 08:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You are absoulutely right, but I assure you that link gave 30,000+ hits yesterday. Weird. Mr Stephen (talk) 11:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• keep and improve Logastellus (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Keep, per WP:BIO, notable if "The person has received significant recognized awards or honors." I personally don't care about Miss Czech Republic, but it is a recognized award, as is Miss Earth. The article could user a bit of clean-up, too.--Sallicio^$\oplus$ 09:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Note that she didn't win: she is first runner up. Fram (talk) 10:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 16:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. Per Fram, Hana Svobodova is the first runner-up, not the winner. I don't speak Czech, but from the top article on the Miss Czech website, Hana Svobodova is described as "První vicemiss Hana Svobodová;" and is listed second at the top after Eliška Bučková, the actual winner. See also [2]. At best, deserves a mention in any article about the 2008 Miss Czech pageant; no reliable sources that I could find that do anything significantly more than mention her name. (Note that the above search now returns only 953 hits.) Mangojuice^talk 16:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep; not notable to Americans, but notable to the Czech. Equivalent to being Miss America. --Auto ^{(talk / contribs)} 05:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep and improve. It’s true that she is the first runner-up, nevertheless, take into account that the first runner-up for Miss Czech is given the title of Miss Czech Earth, gaining all the rights to represent Czech Republic in the international Miss Earth competition; it may not be notable to most of my fellow Americans as stated by an editor above, however, to her countrymen and other countries specially the one they (delegates) visited, specific just for the competition (refer to the website), it is notable and I support the fact that it is equivalent to Miss America in her country. The delegates of Miss Czech travel annually to different countries, this year they went to Thailand for the swimsuit competition, not to mention the reality that this contest is a nationwide search, making the contest notable and of course the winners notable. --Richie Campbell (talk) 14:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

• Merge some content into the 2008 article. jon (blab) 16:35, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - National candidate in Miss Earth is notable. If this were the American candidate, I doubt there would even be a consideration of an AfD. --Oakshade (talk) 04:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I can assure you that many national candidates for Miss Earth are not notable and receive little to no attention. This may be different in the USA, and perhaps also in Czechia, but it is clear from Google that the attention she did receive was for Miss Czech, and not for being a Miss Earth candidate. (To give you an idea, there are only 63 distinct Google hits for the 2007 candidate from the USA in combination with "miss earth"[3]. Miss Earth candidates may be notable for other things, but they are rarely notable for their Miss Earth participation in itself. 10:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fram (talk • contribs)
• Delete none of the sources are independent. Blast Ulna (talk) 12:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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