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Prove or disprove: These numbers are composite for all n>=2 such that these numbers are positive
Prove or disprove: These numbers are composite for all n>=2 such that these numbers are positive Template:Div col
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- These are all special cases of the [[Difference of two squares#Difference of two nth powers|difference of two Template:Mvarth powers]]. --Lambiam 10:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Do your own homework. SamuelRiv (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Based on other posts with this type of number theoretic-focused content coming from IPs in the same geographic area (north Taiwan), I'm pretty sure this isn't meant to be homework. WP:CRUFT, perhaps, but this is the Reference Desk, and it seems to me that it's a lot less of an issue to have it here than elsewhere. GalacticShoe (talk) 16:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- For all of these which are not listed as always composite or having a prime, I tested and didn't find any primes.
- Prime: is probably prime. Note that is divisible by when is even, when , and when , so when there is such a prime then . Thanks to RDBury for helping establish compositeness originally for .
- Unknown: is divisible by when is odd, when , and when , so if there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is even, when , and when .
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Unknown: is divisible by when is odd, when , when , and when , so if there is such a prime then .
- Unknown: is divisible by when is even, when , when , and when , so if there is such a prime then .
- Unknown: is divisible by when and when , and it becomes a difference of squares if is even, so if there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Unknown: is divisible by when is even, so if there is such a prime then is odd.
- Prime: is probably prime. Note that is divisible by when is odd and when , and it becomes a difference of cubes if , so when there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Prime: is probably prime. Note that is divisible by when is even, when , when , when , when , and when , so when there is such a prime then .
- Prime: is probably prime. Note that is divisible by when is odd, when , and when , so when there is such a prime then .
- Prime: is probably prime. Note that is divisible by when is even, when , and when so when there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Prime: is probably prime. Note that is divisible by when is odd, when , and when , so when there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Unknown: is divisible by when is odd, when , when , and when , so if there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Always composite: can be factorized.
- Unknown: is divisible by when is odd, when , and when , so if there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd and when is even.
- Unknown: is divisible by when is odd, when , and when , so if there is such a prime then .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is even, when , and when .
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- Always composite: is divisible by when is odd, and it becomes a difference of squares if is even.
- GalacticShoe (talk) 08:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm guessing this is about the best one can do without actually discovering that some of the values are prime. I did some number crunching on the first sequence 5n+788 with n<1000. All have factors less than 10000 except for n = 87, 111, 147, 207, 231, 319, 351, 387, 471, 487, 499, 531, 547, 567, 591, 639, 687, 831, 919, 979. You can add more test primes to the list, for example if n%30 = 1 then 5n+788 is a multiple of 61, but nothing seems to eliminate all possible n. Wolfram Alpha says the smallest factor of 587+788 is 1231241858423, so it's probably not feasible to carry on without something more sophisticated than trial division. --RDBury (talk) 19:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, RDBury. I've been using Alpertron, it's good at rapidly factorizing or finding low prime factors. GalacticShoe (talk) 22:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, Alpertron is very good and you can give it a file to factor, or specify a formula to factor. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, RDBury. I've been using Alpertron, it's good at rapidly factorizing or finding low prime factors. GalacticShoe (talk) 22:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm guessing this is about the best one can do without actually discovering that some of the values are prime. I did some number crunching on the first sequence 5n+788 with n<1000. All have factors less than 10000 except for n = 87, 111, 147, 207, 231, 319, 351, 387, 471, 487, 499, 531, 547, 567, 591, 639, 687, 831, 919, 979. You can add more test primes to the list, for example if n%30 = 1 then 5n+788 is a multiple of 61, but nothing seems to eliminate all possible n. Wolfram Alpha says the smallest factor of 587+788 is 1231241858423, so it's probably not feasible to carry on without something more sophisticated than trial division. --RDBury (talk) 19:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Lines carrying rays
Not quite sure where to ask this but I decided to put it here. I apologize if this doesn't belong here.
I was recently reading about hyperbolic geometry and when reading the article Limiting parallel, I came across the statement "Distinct lines carrying limiting parallel rays do not meet." What exactly does it mean for a line to carry a ray? Is this standard mathematical terminology? TypoEater (talk) 18:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is the place for such a question, though you might also complain at Talk:Limiting parallel that the phrase is unclear. —Tamfang (talk) 22:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I find the whole article unclear and confusing. Is it me? --Lambiam 23:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)