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May 28

Sequence with π as limit

Can a sequence having the number π as limit be constructed?(Thanks)--82.79.115.90 (talk) 11:23, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

I assume you mean a sequence that doesn't implicitly involve pi in each term? Dbfirs 11:26, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
There are many examples. One, due to Leibniz, is an=4k=0n(1)k2k+1. Then π=limnan. Sławomir Biały (talk) 11:29, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
I wonder, by taking into consideration the answer, if there is a sequence (with non-implicit reference to pi) which is also NOT a series that satisfies the initial question this time with this strict specification explicitly stated?--82.79.115.90 (talk) 13:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
I object slightly that the question is now ill-posed, since every sequence can be written as the sequence of partial sums of a series (of differences) and vice-versa. But in any case, if the question is more along the lines of "is there a sequence, that is naturally a sequence and not a series, that converges to Template:Pi", then the answer is still yes. Let f(x) denote the unique solution to the second order differential equation f(x)+f(x)/4=0 satisfying f(0)=1 and f(0)=0. Define the Newton iteration by x0=1, xn+1=xnf(xn)/f(xn). Then limnxn=π. Sławomir Biały (talk) 14:29, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Does the strict sequence associated to the Leibniz series have the same limit with the series? (Probably not, I guess, given the alternating nature of the deSeriesified Leibniz sequence.)--82.79.115.90 (talk) 14:01, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
I don't know what you mean. The Leibniz series is conditionally convergent. Sławomir Biały (talk) 14:29, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
There's a bunch listed here. Abductive (reasoning) 17:58, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
How about an=2arctann ...? --CiaPan (talk) 18:00, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Another one: let an be the number of pairs of integers (s,t) with 1s,tn and gcd(s,t)=1. Then limn6n2an=π. --Deacon Vorbis (talk) 20:22, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Possibly one of the first to invent (discover?) such sequence was Archimedes of Syracuse who used a few initial terms to find the famous approximation 31071<π<317 (→ Measurement of a Circle#Proposition three). --CiaPan (talk) 07:04, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Consider also continued fraction presented in Pi#Continued fractions – consecutive truncations of any of them result in a sequence of rational numbers Template:Nowrap. --CiaPan (talk) 09:22, 29 May 2017 (UTC)