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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep (withdrawn by nominator). I'mperator 15:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
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I don't believe this manga has any reliable critical commentary, which would make it fail the book notability requirements. Malkinann (talk) 23:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom. Certainly the article (as it stands) presents no information or sources to satisfy any of the conditions of WP:BK. Ipoellet (talk) 23:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Comment The article title is misleading and based presumably on a direct translation/fan name, as there seems (at first glance) to be no English language release available or planned. I suggest any searches made for evidence of notability include the japanese title - Yokujō Climax / 欲情(C)MAX Dandy Sephy (talk) 03:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Based on that, I went ahead and moved the article to Yokujō Climax - if that was inappropriate in light of its being at AFD at the moment (even though it's looking now like it'll be kept), feel free to rv me. 「ダイノガイ千?!」(Dinoguy1000) 18:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- The French and German editions render that (C) as a copyright symbol, and the Japanese cover does indeed show a circled (rather than bracketed) capital C. —Quasirandom (talk) 00:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Moderate Keep give me some time will you please ;) Ok Desire climax, 7 vol series by Ayane UKYO ANN. It is licensed in France Panini Comics France, Some coverages: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. It is licensed in Germany Egmont Manga & Anime anyone (perhaps Quasirandom to check for German coverage) --KrebMarkt 06:59, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm hoping to wrestle some time to do that today, but just based on French coverage we've got enough to pass WP:BK. (I'm surprised given just how much buzz it got in scanlations that there's not even marginally reliable coverage in English.) —Quasirandom (talk) 14:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- A quick search finds nothing reliable in German in the first couple screens, but the first volume of the German edition is only just out, so I confess I'm not surprised. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- To be really exhaustive i should add ratings from Anime Land [11][12][13][14][15] French RS website as it is the counter part of its eponymous paper manga & anime related bi-monthly magazine in France. All coverage concur that the 5 first volumes are below average --KrebMarkt 18:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep based on coverage in French, making it pass WP:BK. I suspect there will be German coverage in a month or two as well, as review sites have a chance to review that edition. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep based on having the necessary amount of coverage in third party sources.kuwabaratheman (talk) 16:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep for the reasons mentioned above. Need to add links to the French coverage though. Dream Focus 18:24, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Added ref to French & German publishers in the article and copied all the French refs in the discussion page of the article. As wrote there don't count on me for translation & summary duty. --KrebMarkt 19:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Keep: per references. Needs English ones too, though. a--It's me...Sallicio! 20:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Cough, there is no English licensor that mostly the reason this manga went to Afd. Unfortunately or Fortunately depending of your opinion, people can't pretend to fight WP:BIAS and refuse to accept that a non-English translated work can be notable provided there is enough non-English RELIABLE third party coverage. --KrebMarkt 05:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Withdraw AFD - as the original nominator, I would like to withdraw the nomination based on there being critical commentary for the French-language edition of this manga. Thank you to KrebMarkt for finding it. :) --Malkinann (talk) 06:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- I salute your good sense, one of the most important quality as an editor :) KrebMarkt 10:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.