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{{Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-start|{{{1|What's on ''your'' tech wishlist for the coming year?}}}|By [[m:User:DannyH (WMF)|Danny Horn]]| 3 November 2016}}

[[File:Pageviewsanalysis_catdog.png|thumb|upright=3.5|center|The new [[toollabs:pageviews|pageviews analysis]] tool.]]

:''Danny Horn is the Senior Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation.''
The Wikimedia Foundation established the [[m:Community Tech|Community Tech team]] in 2015 as a product team devoted to building features and making changes that active Wikimedia contributors need the most. Rather than those of us on the team coming up with our own ideas and proposing them to the community, the team decided to let the community tell us what to work on. To do this, we invited the community to participate in a cross-project survey to set our agenda for the year. This consisted of two weeks for contributors to propose ideas, followed by two weeks of support voting. On November 7, we’ll be starting the process all over again, and we want you to participate in the '''[[m:2016 Community Wishlist Survey|2016 Community Wishlist Survey]]'''.

The 2015 Wishlist Survey engaged more than 600 Wikimedians, and produced a ranked [[m:2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Results|list of 107 ideas]]. Community Tech committed to investigating and addressing the top 10 wishes—designing and building new tools ourselves, or collaborating with other teams and volunteers who were working in those areas. For the two wishes where we could not offer help, we investigated the issues and explained why those wishes weren’t feasible for us to tackle.

=== Progress on the 2015 wishlist ===
[[File:Copypatrol_top_screenshot.png|thumb|upright=1.5|The new [[toollabs:copypatrol|CopyPatrol]] plagiarism patrolling tool.]]
[[File:Numeric Sorting Comparison.png|thumb|upright=1.5|Comparisons of the new [[meta:Community Tech/Numerical sorting in categories|Numerical sorting]] collation.]]

Our first year is coming to a close, and here’s what happened with [[m:2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Results|2015's top 10]]:

We've completed our work on five wishes:
*'''Wish #1: [[:meta:Community Tech/Migrate dead external links to archives|Migrate dead external links to archives]].''' Volunteer [[en:User:Cyberpower678|Cyberpower678]] created a bot that replaces dead external links on English Wikipedia articles with links to the relevant pages at the [https://archive.org// Internet Archive]. At the beginning of the year, [[en:user:Cyberbot II|Cyberpower’s bot]] only fixed links that were marked with a deadlink template. Community Tech contributed code that can examine all the external links on a page, and detect dead links that haven’t been caught by contributors. The new version is currently running on English Wikipedia, and Cyberpower is working on bringing the service to Wikipedias in other languages.
*'''Wish #2: [[:meta:Community Tech/Improved diff comparisons|Improved diff comparisons]].''' When the length of a paragraph exceeds 10,000 bytes, the diff page wouldn’t show any changes made in that paragraph. WMF developer [[mw:User:MaxSem|Max Semenik]] worked on raising the byte limit significantly, and deployed a fix in July that’s live on all wikis.
*'''Wish #5: [[:meta:Community Tech/Numerical sorting in categories|Numerical sorting in categories]].''' This project fixes a longstanding problem on category listings – that pages which begin with numbers were sorted by initial digit. A list should be ordered like this – ''7 Dwarfs'', ''12 Monkeys'', ''101 Dalmatians'' – but the old category collation had it the other way around. In September, Community Tech deployed a new collation system, which lists the numbers in the correct order. This fix is live on [[m:Community Tech/Numerical sorting in categories|18 Wikipedia languages]] now. If your home wiki doesn’t have numerical sorting yet, [[m:Community Tech/Numerical sorting in categories/How to request|you can request it]], after an RFC discussion on your wiki.
*'''Wish #7: [[:meta:Community Tech/Pageview stats tool|Pageview stats tool]].''' The new [[toollabs:pageviews|Pageviews Analysis]] tool is live for all wikis now; we developed the tool with volunteer [[en:User:MusikAnimal|MusikAnimal]], who later joined the Community Tech team.
*'''Wish #9: [[:meta:Community Tech/Improve the plagiarism detection bot|Improve the plagiarism detection bot]].''' Volunteer [[en:User:Eran|Eran]] created a bot that compared new text added to English Wikipedia with a search database, to identify potential plagiarism cases. The reporting interface that he created was difficult to use, and there was a mounting backlog of unchecked cases. Community Tech built [[toollabs:copypatrol|CopyPatrol]], a new tool that makes it easier for patrollers to find and fix the problems flagged by Eranbot. There’s currently a group of around six patrollers using CopyPatrol, and they’ve eliminated the backlog; suspected plagiarism cases are now being handled within a day. Community Tech is currently working on expanding the tool to work on other Wikipedia languages.

We're currently working on one wish:
[[File:New_cross-wiki_watchlist_01.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Wireframe for the in-progress [[meta:Community Tech/Cross-wiki watchlist|Cross-wiki watchlist]].]]
*'''Wish #4: [[:meta:Community Tech/Cross-wiki watchlist|Cross-wiki watchlist]].''' Community Tech has created a technical plan for a global watchlist, and we’re currently making some necessary database changes. We’ll build a proof-of-concept prototype over the next few months, and our work on the new feature will continue into 2017.

Other WMF teams are currently working on two wishes:
*'''Wish #3: [[:meta:Community Tech/Central repository for gadgets, templates and Lua modules|Central repository for gadgets, templates and Lua modules]].''' Foundational work is underway by WMF developer [[mw:User:Legoktm|Legoktm]].
*'''Wish #6: [[:meta:Community Tech/Allow categories in Commons in all languages|Allow categories in Commons in all languages]].''' This wish is being addressed by the Wikidata team’s work, building [[commons:Commons talk:Structured data|a structured data system]] on Commons. 

We declined  two wishes:
*'''Wish #8: [[:meta:Community Tech/Global cross-wiki talk page|Global cross-wiki talk page]].''' In order to work effectively, this would require a structured discussion system, which would probably be built on top of the existing Flow feature. However, since the Wishlist Survey, the Collaboration team has released cross-wiki notifications, and Community Tech is currently working on a cross-wiki watchlist, so the need for a single cross-wiki talk page is not as urgent as it was at the time of the survey. See [[m:Community Tech/Global cross-wiki talk page|the project page]] for a more in-depth discussion.
*'''Wish #10: [[:meta:Community Tech/Add a user watchlist|Add a user watchlist]].''' This request for a watchlist based on other users’ edits was flagged by WMF’s Support and Safety team as a tool that could be used to facilitate hounding and harassment. People have offered several suggestions to reduce the likelihood that the user watchlist would be used in bad faith; those are discussed in detail on [[m:Community Tech/Add a user watchlist|the project page]].

There's more information about each of these, and the full list of 107 wishes, in our latest '''[[m:2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Status_report_3|status report]]'''.

=== Call for participation: Building the 2016 wishlist ===
[[File:2016 community wishlist survey landing page.png|thumb|upright=1.5|[[m:2016 Community Wishlist Survey|2016 Community Wishlist Survey]], starting November 7!]]
The '''[[m:2016 Community Wishlist Survey|2016 Community Wishlist Survey]]''' will start November 7, and we’re changing parts of the process to reflect what we learned in the first one. This year, the focus of the initial two-week proposal period is for the community to collaboratively craft each proposal, to present the idea in a way that's most likely to succeed in the voting phase. When a proposal is submitted, everyone is invited to comment on that proposal, and help to make it better—asking questions, and suggesting changes. Duplicate proposals can be combined; very broad proposals should be split up into more specific ideas. The goal is to create the best possible proposal for the voting phase.

In the two-week voting phase that follows, contributors vote to support the proposals that they think are worthwhile, and the ideas are ranked by the number of support votes. This process gives us a way to measure the community’s enthusiasm for each idea. 

The Community Tech team will work on the top ten wishes in 2017, as we did with last year’s survey, but we also want to make sure that we can help affiliates, admins, campaign leaders, and people who work on smaller projects. To accomplish this, we’ll also pick a number of proposals to work on that didn’t make it into the top 10, but are potentially of  significant impact for smaller projects or user groups.

So we’re inviting all of you smart, passionate, and opinionated Wikimedians to come and help us figure out which problems need our attention the most. [[m:2016 Community Wishlist Survey|Join us]] to submit and discuss proposals (November 7–20), and then for the voting phase (November 28–December 12). We’ll see you there!

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=== Other discussions ===

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====Pending changes to pending changes====
The English Wikipedia has used [[WP:PC|pending changes]] protection since 2010, deferring non-[[WP:AUTOCONFIRM|autoconfirmed]] users' edits to administrators and those granted the [[WP:PCR|pending changes reviewers]] right. One feature of the pending changes extension remains unused: the feature, referred to as PC2 (pending changes level 2), defers all edits by all editors except those able to review pending changes. In 2014, consensus was [[Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2014|formally established]] for the use of pending changes. The community has left the criteria for the feature's use unaddressed, until the introduction of [[WP:ECP|extended confirmed protection]] [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2016-07-21/Discussion report|galvanized discussion]] on protection levels. 

'''[[Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016|A new RfC]]''' proposes the use of PC2 as an alternative to [[WP:ECP|extended confirmed protection]], which bars editing from users with less than 500 edits and 30 days of editing history. The RfC seems to be gaining traction, potentially putting an end to the years of discussion on PC2.

====Number swap==== 
A [[Talk:1#RFC: Should articles "1" to "100" be about numbers instead of years?|long discussion]] has recently been closed on whether the articles from "1" to "100" (specifically the [[natural number]]s from 1 to 100, or <math>[1, 100] \cap \mathbb{N}</math> for math geeks) should be used for the numbers themselves  rather than the year in the Gregorian calendar. 

Consensus has emerged that the years should find new homes as the numbers themselves move in to take the place as the primary topic (for example, the natural number 1 will be covered in [[1]] instead of the year 1). '''[[Talk:1#What should the articles from 1 to 100 be moved to?|The debate]]''' now lies on whether to use <!-- To prevent anchoring bias -->{{#ifexpr:{{rand|2}}=1|[[Anno Domini|AD]] or [[Common Era|CE]]|[[Common Era|CE]] or [[Anno Domini|AD]]}} to describe the calendar era with increasing years, and whether to place the qualifier before or after the year.
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