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= November 11 =

== how do I create a Wikipedia page for myself? ==

how do I create a Wikipedia page for myself? [[User:AnaturalhairstoreyLLC|AnaturalhairstoreyLLC]] ([[User talk:AnaturalhairstoreyLLC|talk]]) 01:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:The short answer is you don't. Wikipedia is explicitly [[WP:NOTFACEBOOK|not social media]] and [[WP:AUTOBIO|not a place to write about yourself]]
:[[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 01:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:AnaturalhairstoreyLLC|AnaturalhairstoreyLLC]] and welcome to Wikipedia. We strongly discourage creating or editing articles about one's self or any entity with which you have a close connection. This is considered a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] and promotional editing of any kind is not allowed. Additionally we do not allow accounts that represent a non human entity or that suggest they may be used by more than one person. Please see the welcome message I left on your talk page. You should consider [[WP:RENAME|requesting a new account name]] if you are a single person and do not intend to edit areas where you have a COI. Best regards... -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 01:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::'''Note''' I have soft blocked the OP due to their username. -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 01:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::kind of a weird thing to do when they hadn't edited outside of this one post and username discussion template was dropped on their page less than five minutes earlier. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 02:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::::It's normal procedure. Blocks are not punitive, and the message makes clear that it is only because of the user name. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

== How do I find an editior to help me with an article ==

How do I find an editior to help me with an article [[User:Queendstorey|Queendstorey]] ([[User talk:Queendstorey|talk]]) 02:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:I have a strong suspicion that this is just a sockpuppet of [[User:AnaturalhairstoreyLLC|AnaturalhairstoreyLLC]]. --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 02:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::They were soft blocked so they are explicitly allowed to make another account. With this level of accusations over all of two edits ''asking for help'' I wonder how any new users would even want to continue contributing. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 02:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Acroterion is editing my identity without my approval. ==
{{collapse top|Clearly not an issue for the help desk}}
This {{pa}} is telling me to not make my page an ad or a resume, and I didn't. I posted qualifications for why I was a Customer Service Auditor enforcing the Accessibility Act of Canada, and the {{pa}} said I was breaking some unwritten rule; Tell me how to lodge a discrimination complaint. He is discriminating against a 57 year old HIV positive document specialist from the United States Air Force 491x1 as an Information Systems Operator. How the fuck is he allowed to get away with telling me I was too specific about my workplace and my qualifications? DId I give my commanding officer and station and duration of my tour? NO!! GET THAT {{pa}} A FUCKING RULEBOOK BEFORE I CHARGE HIM WITH DISCRIMINATION FOR HIS POLITICAL BIAS!! [[User:Vgastudent|Vgastudent]] ([[User talk:Vgastudent|talk]]) 02:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:First of all, thank you for your service sir. Second, please stop making legal threats. Legal threats are not allowed to be on Wikipedia and your account may be blocked. Thank you. [[User:SunDawn|<span style="background-color:black; color:orange;">&maltese; SunDawn &maltese;</span>]] [[User talk:SunDawn|<span style="color:blue;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(contact)</span></span>]] 02:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Neither are [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]] for that matter. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 02:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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== My page deleted help ==

Hello,

I am new to this and everyone keeps asking why I don't have an wikipedia page after being in the business as a National Bestseller, 12x Published Author and Signed Recording Singer/Songwriter but I tried to add one it was deleted stated personal. Is there anyone that can help fix this for me please. 

Divon Delgado [[Special:Contributions/2603:8081:3A00:A43C:11AF:56AC:784:364|2603:8081:3A00:A43C:11AF:56AC:784:364]] ([[User talk:2603:8081:3A00:A43C:11AF:56AC:784:364|talk]]) 03:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:Looks like you've already gotten a thorough explanation and some good advice at [[User talk:Divon Delgado]]. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 03:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Divon Delgado}}, here is a "fun fact" for you: 99.9% of people who try to write a Wikipedia autobiography end up failing, wasting their own time and the time of the reviewers who are unpaid volunteers. Your attempt did not resemble a neutrally written, well referenced encyclopedia article in any way. We expect excellence here. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 03:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== I was instructed to change my name. I need help with an article I'll list it below ==
{{Cot|title=Text about Donna Storey}}
Donna Storey is a entrepreneur, author, and advocate in the field of womb wellness. She has made significant contributions to the promotion of the waistbeading in western society, empowering women of color to embrace their bodies and encouraging wholistic practices. As an author, Storey has gained recognition as the first to cover waistbeading from the perspective of someone living in western society.

'''Career and Impact'''Storey has garnered a substantial following on social media with over 8.5k [https://www.youtube.com/@ANATURALHAIRSTOREYStorey YouTube] subscribers and 15.5k [https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14hRk9xstL/ Instagram] followers. Through her online platforms, she shares valuable insights on waistbeading techniques, the waistbead lifestyle, and other important womb wellness practices. She has created an online sister circle called "The Waist Measurement Challenge," aiming to support individuals in their journey toward better health through a combination of diet, waistbeading, and emotional interpersonal growth.

'''Publications and Community Outreach'''Storey has authored "[https://a.co/d/50hQd5o Waistbeads and Western Society: A Sisterhood]. . ." which explores waistbeads within the context of western culture. She has also written "[https://a.co/d/caW4FXB My Waistbeads Mama]," a book that imparts knowledge on waistbeads, culture, health, accountability, and self-love to young women of color. Additionally, she has developed the "[https://a.co/d/egxkbTq Waistbead Journal]," a tool to assist individuals in tracking their experiences and progress in their waistbeading journey. Storey's publications are widely available through leading retailers such as [https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/waistbeads-and-western-society-donna-storey/1138602137 Barnes & Noble] and Amazon.Storey collaborates with other activists to organize waistbead-centered outreach events andThe incorporates waistbeads into fashion showcases, aiming to promote the practice of waistbeading to a broader audience.

'''Literary''': 

In her Afro.com article featured interview, Donna

* [https://afro.com/donna-storey-taps-into-the-power-history-of-waistbeads/ Donna Storey taps into the power, history of waistbeads]
* "Waistbeads and Western Society: A Sisterhood...*, the first book about waistbeads in the western cultural , context.


'''Legacy and Recognition'''

Donna Storey's enduring commitment to promoting womb wellness, waistbeading, and empowerment has left an indelible mark on the community. She is recognized as the first author to cover waistbeading from the perspective of someone living in western society and has personally tied over 100 sets of waistbeads. Her work has inspired women of color to embrace the waistbead lifestyle, their bodies, and a more comprehensive approach to wellness. 

[[User:Queendstorey|Queendstorey]] ([[User talk:Queendstorey|talk]]) 03:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
{{Cob}}

:As was explained to you earlier, Wikipedia is not [[Wikipedia:AUTOBIO|a place to write about yourself.]] If you meet Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:NBIO|notability guidelines]], then ''someone else'' may write an article about you, although you won't have any say as to what is actually in the article.
:If you have any questions or need any clarification, feel free to ask here. <span style="background:#735172;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px">&nbsp;[[User:MaybeitsMir|<span style="color:#FFB3DE">miranda</span>]] [[User talk:maybeitsmir|<span style=";color:#bcf7f5">:3</span>]]&nbsp;</span> 04:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Queendstorey}}, nobody wants to read your unreferenced [[elevator pitch]] here. The only thing that experienced Wikipedia editors care about in a discussion like this is the quality of the independent, reliable sources that devote significant coverage to you. Those sources must be ''entirely independent'' of you. That is the only thing to discuss here in this case. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 06:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Admin help needed to move articles related to [[continued fraction]] ==

In a long discussion at [[Talk:Continued fraction]], consensus was reached that
* [[Continued fraction]] should be moved to [[Simple continued fraction]];
* [[Continued fraction (non-simple)]] can then be moved to [[Continued fraction]].
We understand that this needs support by an admin so that no histories be lost. How to proceed? -- [[User:Dyspophyr|Dyspophyr]] ([[User talk:Dyspophyr|talk]]) 07:11, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Dyspophyr|Dyspophyr]] since the move is now non-controversial, you can add a request at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests]], and a page mover or admin will move the pages shortly. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 12:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Draft Article and Conflict with Existing Article ==

# I have created a draft article titled 'Swindon Health Hydro'. I would like to rename it 'Swindon Health Hydro, also known as Milton Road Baths'. This is because many people in Swindon refer to the Health Hydro as 'Milton Road Baths' and that, for a time, was its official name. It seems that renaming an article, even in draft, is a problem.
# The bigger problem relates to the existing article 'Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths'. My intention was to just cross-reference this article when creating the new article. It seems that this will not be permitted and that my article should be merged with this existing article. The existing article is focused on the Turkish Baths, which are just one element in a building complex that also includes two swimming pools and an extensive 'dry side' that once housed a comprehensive set of medical services. The Turkish Baths are Edwardian in origin (having been built in 1904-05), though Victorian in style. I wanted to make a start on creating an article on the whole building, its qualities as a building and its historic importance, particularly in relation to the founding of the NHS. There is no point doing this in an article entitled 'Swindon Victorian Turkish Baths', a term that means nothing to anyone in Swindon and wouldn't reflect the article's content. That title would create a barrier when it comes to others accessing, improving and expanding the article. I suspect that the authors of the existing article, who are focused on Turkish Baths, will not be happy with it being subsumed into a much broader article in which the Turkish Baths will play a relatively minor part. Without an appropriate title, my efforts would be wasted and this important building will not be recorded in Wikipedia.
# There's a third issue. I have no material interest in the building and no connection to its owners (Swindon Borough Council) or its operators (Greenwich Leisure Ltd, trading as Better) other than being a resident of one and a customer of the other. I am the member of an informal campaigning group (Friends of Swindon Health Hydro) that want to see the building fully restored and fully utilised. It has been suggested that this might create some kind of conflict of interest. Of course I am interested in the building or I wouldn't be creating an article about it.

Overall, I want to create an article about the Swindon Health Hydro covering the entire building and its history from 1891 to the present day. With an appropriate title, so that others can find the article, read it, improve it and expand it. I would prefer to cross-reference the existing article, rather than merge with it. I suspect that, otherwise, I will get into a 'turf war' with that article's authors. I did change 'Victorian' to 'Victorian-style' within the article, only for the change to be immediately reversed. [[User:Mydaemonthirst|Mydaemonthirst]] ([[User talk:Mydaemonthirst|talk]]) 07:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{courtesy link|Draft:Swindon Health Hydro}}. @[[User:Mydaemonthirst|Mydaemonthirst]] Please address the messages on your talk page. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 09:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::how do I navigate to my Talk page? [[User:Mydaemonthirst|Mydaemonthirst]] ([[User talk:Mydaemonthirst|talk]]) 12:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::By clicking the (talk) link beside your username. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 12:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Math help desk? ==

Is there a help desk for mathematical articles? I've written an article on [[Agnew's theorem]] and would like an experienced Wikipedia math editor to take a look at it and edit it if necessary. —&nbsp;[[User:UnladenSwallow|UnladenSwallow]] ([[User talk:UnladenSwallow|talk]]) 07:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:[[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics]].--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|UnladenSwallow}}. I know little about advanced mathematics but I do know that an article referenced to just one source written by the person that the theorem is named after is an article with major problems. References to significant coverage in reliable sources fully ''independent '' of the topic are required. If this theorem goes all the way back to 1955, haven't other mathematicians discussed it since then? [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 08:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Thank you for your feedback, {{u|Cullen328}}. I actually found out about the theorem via [https://mathoverflow.net/questions/424390/rearrangement-conditional-convergence-and-placid-permutations a discussion on MathOverflow], so it is certainly being discussed by mathematicians. —&nbsp;[[User:UnladenSwallow|UnladenSwallow]] ([[User talk:UnladenSwallow|talk]]) 15:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, {{u|Ianmacm}}. —&nbsp;[[User:UnladenSwallow|UnladenSwallow]] ([[User talk:UnladenSwallow|talk]]) 15:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{Ping|UnladenSwallow}} See also [[WP:WikiProject Mathematics]] and its talk page, where you can talk to other editors active in the topic area. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, {{u|Pigsonthewing}}. —&nbsp;[[User:UnladenSwallow|UnladenSwallow]] ([[User talk:UnladenSwallow|talk]]) 15:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|UnladenSwallow}}, when the definition of "Agnew permutation" says "union of at most K intervals", does it mean "union of finitely many intervals"? [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 16:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Maproom}}, no. There must be a specific natural number {{math|''K''}}, such that, {{underline|no matter what {{math|''n''}} you choose}}, the image of interval <math>[1,\,n]</math> under the permutation is a union of at most {{math|''K''}} intervals. —&nbsp;[[User:UnladenSwallow|UnladenSwallow]] ([[User talk:UnladenSwallow|talk]]) 06:26, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:::{{u|UnladenSwallow}} That seems unclear in the worded definition when the intervals are mentioned before K. I suggest: "if there exists a finite K such that any interval ..." [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{u|PrimeHunter}}, changed the article per your suggestion. —&nbsp;[[User:UnladenSwallow|UnladenSwallow]] ([[User talk:UnladenSwallow|talk]]) 14:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

== Linking to pages ==

How do I like to pages like [[Piglet’s Big Game]] properly? [[User:Sangsangaplaz|<span style="color: green">Sangsangaplaz</span>]] ([[User talk:Sangsangaplaz|<span style="color: orange">Talk to me! I'm willing to help</span>]]) 09:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:Is it the article ''[[Piglet's Big Game]]''? If you want to link to it, you need to use a straight, not curly apostrophe; see [[MOS:APOSTROPHE]].--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 10:22, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Organization infobox ==

I've added an organization infobox to article [[Nexus Project]] and have some questions re the parameters board_of_directors, key_people and main_organ. In the case of the Nexus Project, the main organ is the Nexus Project Board. Is there a way to state this and to list the members of the Nexus Project Board, making clear that they are the members of the Nexus Project Board? For now, I've just listed them using key_people.

I'm wondering whether there is a way of achieving a similar flexibility to that provided by parameters leader_title etc. That series of parameters allows one to specify the name of the role.

Parameter board_of_directors, OTOH, doesn't appear to allow that kind of flexibility.

Thanks [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 16:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Misha Wolf}} {{tl|Infobox organization}} has five customizable leader titles. [[Nexus Project]] only uses the first. You can just use <code>leader_title2</code> and place multiple people in <code>leader_name2</code>. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=hastemplate%3A%22Infobox+organization%22+insource%3A%22leader_name2+%3D+plainlist%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 This search] has examples. Some of them don't even use it for people but aircraft. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 17:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hi @[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]], I don't need leaders with various titles. I need to be able to place the title of a body, such as "Project Board", in the infobox, and then list the members of that body. I was citing leader_title as an example of a parameter which has a default value ("Leader"), which can be overridden, which does not appear to be possible with, say, board_of_directors. Thanks [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 18:11, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi again @[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]], I see from the examples retrieved by the search you provided that some others are using the leader_title etc fields to represent bodies, with multiple members, which is also my use case. So I'll adopt that approach. Thanks [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 18:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::::That's exactly what I meant. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 18:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::👍 [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 18:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:I am not an expert on infoboxes, but doesn't 'organ' mean the organisation's (main) [[Periodical literature|periodical]] publication? I have never encountered it being used to refer to a board of people. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.7.95.48|94.7.95.48]] ([[User talk:94.7.95.48|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Hi @[[Special:Contributions/94.7.95.48|94.7.95.48]], [[Template:Infobox organization]] says:
::main_organ              = ''<!-- or |publication = --><!-- organization's principal body (assembly, committee, board, etc.) or publication -->'' [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 18:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Oops! I'll try it another way:
:::main_organ              = < !-- or |publication = -->< !-- organization's principal body (assembly, committee, board, etc.) or publication --> [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 18:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::::{{Small|{{u|Misha Wolf}}, try {{tl|para}} or [[:mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight]]. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 21:41, 11 November 2024 (UTC)}}
:::::Thanks, @[[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]]. [[User:Misha Wolf|Misha Wolf]] ([[User talk:Misha Wolf|talk]]) 22:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Deletion of [[Ben McKay (actor)]] ==

Hello. Today I proposed deletion of [[Ben McKay (actor)]] per [[WP:PROD]]. At the time I had not realised that a [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ben McKay (actor)|previous AfD]] had concluded on 2007-04-08 that the article should be deleted. (The current article was created on 2011-05-01, so I guess it was deleted in 2007 and then re-created in 2011.)

I then discovered that the article was in [[:Category:Proposed deletions needing attention]] which distressed me, and on re-reading [[WP:PROD]] it seems that the article may not be eligible for PROD having previously been subject to an AfD discussion. Should I revert my PROD and submit to AfD instead? Or revert my PROD and submit for deletion under [[WP:SPEEDY]] criteria G4 instead? Or just let the PROD stand? I am quite new to editing, so would be grateful for advice from more seasoned editors. I certainly don't want to circumvent due process and discussion, but fundamentally I do not think that the subject of the article is notable; at least, I have been unable to find decent sources to support it. [[User:SunloungerFrog|SunloungerFrog]] ([[User talk:SunloungerFrog|talk]]) 19:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:This is not your fault, notice of the previous deletion should have been posted on the talk page when it was re-created. The person doing so would have seen a notice and should have taken action. That being said, it is true that it is no longer eligible for PROD and will need to go through AFD. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 19:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]], many thanks for your help! I will keep a weather eye on the AfD discussion. [[User:SunloungerFrog|SunloungerFrog]] ([[User talk:SunloungerFrog|talk]]) 20:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== pervasive anti Israel bias. please take note ==
{{collapse top|This is manifestly not a request for help with editing Wikipedia. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] [[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<sup>from this world ..... today</sup>]] 19:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)}}
https://aish.com/weaponizing-wikipedia-against-israel/?src=ac

please read the above article to see the pervasive problem.
it will need a lot of effort to correct the lies. [[Special:Contributions/2603:3024:100D:1D00:6C9B:A167:E7A8:EAD|2603:3024:100D:1D00:6C9B:A167:E7A8:EAD]] ([[User talk:2603:3024:100D:1D00:6C9B:A167:E7A8:EAD|talk]]) 19:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:Do you have any [[:WP:RS|reliable sources]] to support this claim? --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 19:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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== filing complaint ==

How do you file a complaint about content? One page looks like someone tried making several changes over a few days then there appears to be 30 or more brute force changes from random numbers only URL. [[User:Blkvette94|Blkvette94]] ([[User talk:Blkvette94|talk]]) 20:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Blkvette94|Blkvette94]], usually we tell people to [[WP:BOLD|be bold]] and fix things themselves. What's the article? -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 20:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Notability inside lists ==

i recently saw in [[List of international schools in Sri Lanka]] a school was removed for not being notable. Does notability that strict for contents inside lists? Was it removed because it doesn't have a separate Wiki article to itself? <b>[[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]]</b><sup>[[User talk:VihirLak007|hmu!]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/VihirLak007|duh.]]</sub> 21:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:{{U|VihirLak007}}, applicable guidance is at [[WP:NLIST]]. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 21:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Folly Mox}} That section is about the notability of lists themselves. Did you mean [[WP:LSC]]? [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|talk]]) 21:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::{{U|Jlwoodwa}}, sorry, yes, I always get those two mixed up. Apologies also to {{u|VihirLak007}} for the faulty link target. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 00:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]]@[[User:Jlwoodwa|Jlwoodwa]] Thanksss! <b>[[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]]</b><sup>[[User talk:VihirLak007|hmu!]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/VihirLak007|duh.]]</sub> 11:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|VihirLak007}} It could depend on [[:WP:CSC]] and what kind of inclusion criteria are established for that particular article. You could discuss this with the user who removed the school at [[:Talk:List of international schools in Sri Lanka]] and seek further clarification. Given that every school mentioned in the article has a Wikipedia article written about it, Wikipedia notability could be the primary criterion for inclusion used for that article. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 14:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

== Creating an article ==

Hi guys. I'm new to Wikipedia but I really want to be an editor. I search famous people that dont yet have a page and would love to make an article on them, at least a draft, and then add stuff accordingly. 
Can I do that? I've heard there are moderators on the platform that do not allow new people to create new articles, flagging it as promotional.
Please help and give me a roadmap as to how I can start doing this since I actually want to be an renowned profile on this platform! xx

Any help would be appreciated! [[User:Noobx9000|Noobx9000]] ([[User talk:Noobx9000|talk]]) 21:41, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:Note that "fame" is not the same thing as [[WP:N|notability]]- such as [[WP:BAND|notable musicians]] or [[WP:POLITICIAN|notable politicians]].
:You may use the [[WP:WIZARD|Article Wizard]] to create a draft, but it is highly recommended that you first gain experience and knowledge by editing existing articles first, as creating a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia. I would also suggest using the [[WP:ADVENTURE|new user tutorial]] and reading [[WP:YFA|Your first article]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::I appreciate the help, will surely look at the links you've provided. One question here - if a person is notable yet doesn't have a Wikipedia yet, could it be made (easily)? 
::I just dont want to create an article and get it deleted straight away because I am just trying. [[User:Noobx9000|Noobx9000]] ([[User talk:Noobx9000|talk]]) 21:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::The nice thing about the draft space is that you can work on a draft with a little more ability to work, rather than if you directly created an article. It will be treated as a draft or work in progress. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Hello, @[[User:Noobx9000|Noobx9000]], and welcome to Wikipedia. I remember twenty years ago, when I was a new editor, how I was desperately looking for a subject that I could write an article about, to "make my mark" on Wikipedia. 
:::Now I know that creating new articles is not the only, or necessarily the best, way to contribute to Wikipedia (I've made nearly 26 000 edits, but I've only ever created a dozen or so articles). 
:::If you attempt to create an article now, it is likely to be some considerable time before you manage to add any value to Wikipedia, and in the meantime, while you can no doubt learn useful things about Wikipedia, you are likely to find it frustrating. 
:::{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Noobx9000}} What you've heard is somewhat inaccurate. Wikipedia doesn't have moderators{{snd}}it has [[WP:ADMIN|administrators]] who carry out [[WP:CON|community consensus]]. Wholly-promotional articles are often [[WP:CSD|speedily deleted]] under criteria [[WP:G11]] or [[WP:A7]], or deleted after a discussion at [[WP:AfD|Articles for Deletion]]. This is because the Wikipedia community has long held that [[WP:NOTPROMO|Wikipedia is not for promotion]]. If you want to write an article that isn't deleted, you should make sure that it [[WP:V|verifiably]] demonstrates the [[WP:N|notability]] of its subject, and is written in a [[WP:NPOV|neutral]], encyclopedic manner. The article will be judged on its own merit, not by how long you've been an editor. However, new editors often find it difficult to write articles that meet Wikipedia's standards until they've spent some time working on ''existing'' articles. So if your article is deleted, please don't be discouraged{{snd}}there are many other ways to [[WP:CTW|contribute to Wikipedia]], and you can come back to article creation later with the benefit of experience. [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|talk]]) 22:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

== Referencing errors on [[Special:Diff/1256842626|Alonzo Horton]] ==

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I am a complete noob to all of this, can someone please explain how to do this properly? Thank you in advance!
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Thanks, [[User:Flashoftruth|Flashoftruth]] ([[User talk:Flashoftruth|talk]]) 22:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:[[User:Flashoftruth|Flashoftruth]], please see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alonzo_Horton&diff=1256859816&oldid=1256842626 my edit]. (Incidentally, the reason why access is dated 12 November is that I forgot to use UTC.) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 22:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:Flashoftruth|Flashoftruth]] ([[User talk:Flashoftruth|talk]]) 00:17, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

== Need some help with personal CSS (not urgent) ==

In the Timeless skin, I'd like to widen the content/ editing window. As a matter of fact, I'm trying to do this at Wikisource, but the wiki shouldn't matter.
<gallery mode="packed">
WS Main page timeless screenshot.png|It currently looks like this.
WS main page timeless screenshot 2.png|I'd like it with the side bars compressed and the main area wider.
</gallery>
Is that possible? Cheers, [[User talk:Cremastra|''Cremastra'']] ([[User:Cremastra|u]] — [[Special:Contribs/Cremastra|c]]) 23:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Cremastra}} This reduces the left pane for me at Wikisource:
:<syntaxhighlight lang="css">
#mw-site-navigation {width:9em !important;}
#mw-related-navigation {width:9em !important;}
#mw-content-wrapper {width:106% !important;}
</syntaxhighlight>
:I don't have a right pane at all. Those things are further down in the left pane for me. Do you still have a right pane at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page?safemode=1, or if you log out and view https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=timeless? [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 00:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] Thanks, but that code didn't seem to change anything. {{shrug}}
::I think the right panel thing is due to screen size; Timeless is supposed to be more responsive. I'm on a 13-inch laptop, but if I narrow my browser width a bit, the right panel disappears.
::I was able to shrink the side panel sizes by selecting the .sidebar-chunk class. [[User talk:Cremastra|''Cremastra'']] ‹ [[User:Cremastra|u]] — [[Special:Contribs/Cremastra|c]] › 01:02, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

== headphone ==

what is my best choice for a head set to plug int a radio/cd player? HOPING TO ORDER IT RIGHT AWAY FOR TOMORROW AEEIVAL [[User:SterlingHI55|SterlingHI55]] ([[User talk:SterlingHI55|talk]]) 23:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|SterlingHI55}}, the Help Desk is for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. We do not recommend electronics. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 02:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)